Posts by Driving Force

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They know the RC is going to be an issue: August Broadcast talk with Tony

by leavingonthenextplane in

they are told that persecution is coming and that all will see it.. they are told that there will be lies in the media about us.. they even give the old brother king interview about brothers being jailed.

the last sentence tony the tiger damn near screams at the camera to stay faithful you integrity keepers... he knows your fathers and husbands may be going to jail.

this talk is all about damage control.. .

Driving Force

Interesting in this talk was that he referred to a JW child dying because of the blood issue as an isolated case and the press blowing it out of proportion (which is no doubt true, but justified). Now that sets the theme for mind manipulation. Any pedophile action by a JW, will now be in the mid of a JW as an isolated case, and being blown out of proportion by the press, and this as we all know is very far from the truth. So any form of action by any authority concerning any pedophile action will now be consider by the R&F as something being blown out of proportion, thus persecution.

Well at least that (I believe) is what the GB want to achieve, unfortunately many JWs will fall for this. Mind manipulation in action.

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Royal Commission - Clarification of 1,006 unreported abusers

by Listener in

knowing that many here like to relate information as accurately as possible i just wanted to make a clarification regarding the unreported abusers in the australian jw religion.. it is not correct for us to state that there are 1,006 cases of unreported abusers in australia since 1950. .

this is what the commission has reported in the opening address .

those documents include 1,006 case files relating to allegations of child sexual abuse made against members of the jehovahs witness church in australia since 1950 each file for a different alleged perpetrator of child sexual abuse.

Driving Force

One point I would like to add.

If the non-reporting of a serious crime is in itself a crime, then there are an awful lot of criminal elders withing the organization.

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Governing Body member is in Australia right now!

by Anonymous1 in

sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.

i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.

he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.

Driving Force

You are funny DD.

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My introduction and confession

by elderINewton in

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well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.

i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.

i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.

Driving Force

Great that you have left and I do hope that you can extract your family intact from the hands of the bOrg.

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Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta

by freemindfade in

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soliciting any and all opinions.

as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.

my fade has gone from us fighting.

Driving Force

Well, I tried telling my wife the TTATT, she did not want to listen and was not prepared to discuss one single item, that was about five months ago. She does not talk to me meaningfully about anything, we are separated in our own home. This is due to the toxic idea that one should not talk or discuss with an apostate. As a matter of love; I guess she shows more love to the bOrg than to me. Anyway I have to live with that and come to terms with the fact that the bOrg has destroyed our marriage.

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What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

by oppostate in

it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

Driving Force

Their thievery.

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Just received a visit from 2 Elders

by Driving Force in

the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.

we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.

one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.

Driving Force

Searcher
I only let them in because they were not from my (ex)congregation.

Heaven / Punk

I did say the every convention is better than the one before, and you can guess the answer, "But this one really was".

galaxie

I know what you mean, I fell for that too.

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Just received a visit from 2 Elders

by Driving Force in

the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.

we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.

one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.

Driving Force

Punk

Company men methinks!

You are probably right on that, but as my fade is new, this is giving me experience in reasoning with them without exposing my apostate attitudes.

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Just received a visit from 2 Elders

by Driving Force in

the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.

we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.

one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.

Driving Force

The Elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the BOE/COBE because they were not from my (ex)congregation. We talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.

Then they mentioned the RC and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years. One thing they did mention was the fact that the bOrg was clearly preparing them for persecution. I did not attend the RC, and I will never again attend any, but did anybody else who did attend notice this aspect?

I brought up a controversial subject, that of Child Baptism and disfellowshipping of teenagers. One of the Elders was of the opinion that if a baptized teenager does something and gets themselves disfellowshiped it is their own fault, at this I wanted to kick him in the balls, but I resisted the temptation. The argument from my side that a teenager needs every support they can get did not interest him. Anyway both Elders are completely against children and teenagers getting baptized, which is very positive and one even went as far as saying that if his SIL coerces any of his grandchildren into getting baptized, then he would go ballistic, again something positive. So apparently the latest push on the part of the bOrg leadership to have young ones baptized, doe not appear to be having a positive affect.

I wanted to talk about TOMOs rant on child abuse, but they had to leave.

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Reliable source - new round of US Bethel layoffs coming soon

by sir82 in

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was talking to an ex-bethelite who is still very well-connected to those in the ivory tower.. he says that there will soon be a(nother) large number of us bethelites who will be "reassigned to the field" as pioneers and special pioneers.. he did not give his source, but he is pretty reliable.

incidentally, he was "reassigned to the field" in the last big purge about 7 years ago.. i imagine those so reassigned would be pretty teed off.

let go just before the golden lakeshore palace was completed..

Driving Force

sparrowdown

please God send us a Bethel Edward Snowden.

that gave me a good giggle.